needhelp!
07-25 10:57 AM
Not flowers ... any other time, an emphatic YES.
But we just used flowers as a sarcastic "Thank You, USCIS" .... so it is not the best idea ... just a note of Thanks, email or letter - to let her know we are grateful for her stance. It is important that we acknowledge the efforts of people who work to help us.
Everyone is going to think twice now when they get a bouquet of flowers.. lol
But we just used flowers as a sarcastic "Thank You, USCIS" .... so it is not the best idea ... just a note of Thanks, email or letter - to let her know we are grateful for her stance. It is important that we acknowledge the efforts of people who work to help us.
Everyone is going to think twice now when they get a bouquet of flowers.. lol
bitzbytz
07-13 02:24 PM
i backup admin...no threads for illegal issues. May be we can use private messages.
like_watching_paint_dry
07-25 10:30 AM
We should send flowers to her with a personally written thank you note.
Not flowers ... any other time, an emphatic YES.
But we just used flowers as a sarcastic "Thank You, USCIS" .... so it is not the best idea ... just a note of Thanks, email or letter - to let her know we are grateful for her stance. It is important that we acknowledge the efforts of people who work to help us.
Not flowers ... any other time, an emphatic YES.
But we just used flowers as a sarcastic "Thank You, USCIS" .... so it is not the best idea ... just a note of Thanks, email or letter - to let her know we are grateful for her stance. It is important that we acknowledge the efforts of people who work to help us.
chandra_mb
03-12 12:52 AM
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Also, if one one "qualifies" with all the requirements he or she can apply based on the TIN #. The board must be informed that a TIN is used and will need to be updated with SSN when you recieve one.
Thanks a lot !!. I am assuming TIN# is the ITIN number (used for tax filing) ? Also, if you dont mind, can you please let me know which state board accepted the ITIN# ? We are planning for NJ or CA.
Also, if one one "qualifies" with all the requirements he or she can apply based on the TIN #. The board must be informed that a TIN is used and will need to be updated with SSN when you recieve one.
Thanks a lot !!. I am assuming TIN# is the ITIN number (used for tax filing) ? Also, if you dont mind, can you please let me know which state board accepted the ITIN# ? We are planning for NJ or CA.
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Macaca
01-20 12:41 PM
I have already contributed $ 200 in the past. I prefer to make one time contributions instead of recurring.
Contributions is the need of the hour. Please help in contributions from other members. Thanks.
Contributions is the need of the hour. Please help in contributions from other members. Thanks.
abc
06-03 12:48 PM
What happens if the current company withdraws the labour after you have moved to the new company.
Is your h1b 8th year extn invalid..
Is your h1b 8th year extn invalid..
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dealsnet
01-13 01:48 PM
What you did is illegal. It can affect your H1B and GC.
vikki76
05-24 02:50 PM
Interesting you brought this up. I am alumni of RPI and take great interest in current college activities.Read this in their this month's alumni magazine
"For several years President Shirley Ann Jackson has been warning of a looming gap in the science and engineering workforce,driver primarily by three factors.Those who responded to President John F Kennedy's historic call to action following launch of the Sputnik satellite and became the scientists and engineers whose work has fueled the US economy for a generation are on the verge of of retiring numbers.
As a nation of immigrants,the United States has relied on students,professors,and researchers who came from abroad to study and remain ,but in a "flattening" world offering expanding opportunities,their numbers are decreasing.In addition,not enough young people in this country are being excited and prepared to pursue careers in science and engineering.
These factors,in combination with the decreasing federal commitment to funding basic research,are what President Jackson describes as "quiet crisis"
"It is quiet because it takes decades to educate a scientist,mathematician, or an engineer,so the true impact unfolds only gradually,over time", says President Jackson.
"It is a crisis because the discoveries and innovations of our science and engineering workforce create the new opportunities and industries which keep our economy thriving,provide for our security, and mitigate the global scourges that breed suffereing and global instability."
Disclaimer: RPI has vested interest in fueling growth in undergraduate technical program. It is a very small private college,focussed exclusively on engineering and science programs.There are no arts or history major offered.
"For several years President Shirley Ann Jackson has been warning of a looming gap in the science and engineering workforce,driver primarily by three factors.Those who responded to President John F Kennedy's historic call to action following launch of the Sputnik satellite and became the scientists and engineers whose work has fueled the US economy for a generation are on the verge of of retiring numbers.
As a nation of immigrants,the United States has relied on students,professors,and researchers who came from abroad to study and remain ,but in a "flattening" world offering expanding opportunities,their numbers are decreasing.In addition,not enough young people in this country are being excited and prepared to pursue careers in science and engineering.
These factors,in combination with the decreasing federal commitment to funding basic research,are what President Jackson describes as "quiet crisis"
"It is quiet because it takes decades to educate a scientist,mathematician, or an engineer,so the true impact unfolds only gradually,over time", says President Jackson.
"It is a crisis because the discoveries and innovations of our science and engineering workforce create the new opportunities and industries which keep our economy thriving,provide for our security, and mitigate the global scourges that breed suffereing and global instability."
Disclaimer: RPI has vested interest in fueling growth in undergraduate technical program. It is a very small private college,focussed exclusively on engineering and science programs.There are no arts or history major offered.
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green1
08-19 12:24 AM
I have problem with my lawyer too .I found out he made a mistake on my application concerning my information.my employer gave me the password so I checked my status on line.and when I asked him what gonna happen with my application .he were furious and he ask me who told you and he says thats not true.but I saw every thing with my proper eyes .any way he told me that next time if I wana talk to him I have to send him a check of 250 dollar the price of the consultation.then he can answer my question.and he told me that if he wana hurt me he can do it.I don't know what he means.and after I called my employer to tell him about the lawyer .today I foundout that the password for checking the status was changed. here's my story friends .plus my perm is pending for 127 day by now. please guys advice
tammman
10-06 09:34 PM
I totally agree with you...recently I moved to CA and it took me close to 2 months before I had 3 offers...I can see it can be frustating, distracting but keep +ve and it will be rewaded.
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rtarar
02-12 07:21 AM
I am a july 2 nd filer.
No FP yet.
No FP yet.
arnet
11-22 04:55 PM
better check with your immigration attroney for your situation.
It is better to have all visa related documents including I-797, LCA, I-129, passport, w-2, pay stubs, current company employment letter, appointment letter, resume, bank financial statements, work experience letters, etc. call the consulate and verify the reqd docs before you go.
regd AP, if your previous visa stamping is expired in passport then it is better to have AP when you go outside country for visa stamping. just incase if any problems with your paper and if they didnt stamp, atleast you can use AP to enter US. If previous visa is not expired you can come back to US using that at port of entry and you can go back and get stamping later. better check with your immigration attroney for your situation.
If you use AP, you should use EAD to work. You cannot use H1 unless if you get H1 stamped in your passport OR if you have already stamped, you need to re-enter US using H1 at port of entry (but either case, you need to go outside US and enter).
also staying in H1 is better compared to working in EAD (if AP used at port of entry) because if I-485 is denied in future, you will be considered as "out of status" when you are in EAD and you can't file for another I-485 because you are out of status (unless if you come under certain USCIS relaxations you can file again). But in H1 even if I-485 is denied, atleast you can file another I-485 because you are in status.
some say if your GC is approved when you are out of country, then you need to use AP ONLY to enter US as they say H1 wont be valid if GC is approved but I'm not sure abt this.
good luck.
Hi
I am working in University in US and my I-140 (EB-2 Sch-A) is approved and my I-485 is pending. I have H-1B approved from March-06 but yet not stamped.
I am planing to Go to India some time next summer.
But before that I am planing to go to MEXICO ( MATAMOROS) for H-1B and
H-4 stamping for my family.
Do I need to carry any extra documents apart from those needed for H-1 B stamping?
DO I need to Get Advance parole before going to mexico for H-1B stamping?
Does the my going out of country with pending I-485 without taking AP will affect pending application of I-485?
Your experienced advise will help me a lot.
It is better to have all visa related documents including I-797, LCA, I-129, passport, w-2, pay stubs, current company employment letter, appointment letter, resume, bank financial statements, work experience letters, etc. call the consulate and verify the reqd docs before you go.
regd AP, if your previous visa stamping is expired in passport then it is better to have AP when you go outside country for visa stamping. just incase if any problems with your paper and if they didnt stamp, atleast you can use AP to enter US. If previous visa is not expired you can come back to US using that at port of entry and you can go back and get stamping later. better check with your immigration attroney for your situation.
If you use AP, you should use EAD to work. You cannot use H1 unless if you get H1 stamped in your passport OR if you have already stamped, you need to re-enter US using H1 at port of entry (but either case, you need to go outside US and enter).
also staying in H1 is better compared to working in EAD (if AP used at port of entry) because if I-485 is denied in future, you will be considered as "out of status" when you are in EAD and you can't file for another I-485 because you are out of status (unless if you come under certain USCIS relaxations you can file again). But in H1 even if I-485 is denied, atleast you can file another I-485 because you are in status.
some say if your GC is approved when you are out of country, then you need to use AP ONLY to enter US as they say H1 wont be valid if GC is approved but I'm not sure abt this.
good luck.
Hi
I am working in University in US and my I-140 (EB-2 Sch-A) is approved and my I-485 is pending. I have H-1B approved from March-06 but yet not stamped.
I am planing to Go to India some time next summer.
But before that I am planing to go to MEXICO ( MATAMOROS) for H-1B and
H-4 stamping for my family.
Do I need to carry any extra documents apart from those needed for H-1 B stamping?
DO I need to Get Advance parole before going to mexico for H-1B stamping?
Does the my going out of country with pending I-485 without taking AP will affect pending application of I-485?
Your experienced advise will help me a lot.
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cbpds
11-12 05:31 PM
why do we even need a bulletin in this case? sheer waste of time for even the folks publishing it,
waste of gov resources, IT guy has to update, gov employee has to check, someone has to send out the release.
Seems to me like its been decided by BO or HC .......go home everyone.
Also says no change expected in the coming months.
See bottom of the bulletin.
:(
:mad:
F. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS
Employment-based: At this time it is unlikely that there will be any cut-off dates in the Employment First preference during the coming months. It also appears unlikely that it will be necessary to establish a cut-off date other than those already in effect for the Second preference category. Cut-off dates continue to apply to the China and India Second preference categories due to heavy demand.
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off date movement each month during the coming months are as follows:
Employment Second:
China: none to two weeks
India: no movement
Employment Third:
Worldwide: three to six weeks
China: one to three weeks
India: none to two week
waste of gov resources, IT guy has to update, gov employee has to check, someone has to send out the release.
Seems to me like its been decided by BO or HC .......go home everyone.
Also says no change expected in the coming months.
See bottom of the bulletin.
:(
:mad:
F. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS
Employment-based: At this time it is unlikely that there will be any cut-off dates in the Employment First preference during the coming months. It also appears unlikely that it will be necessary to establish a cut-off date other than those already in effect for the Second preference category. Cut-off dates continue to apply to the China and India Second preference categories due to heavy demand.
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off date movement each month during the coming months are as follows:
Employment Second:
China: none to two weeks
India: no movement
Employment Third:
Worldwide: three to six weeks
China: one to three weeks
India: none to two week
ilwaiting
07-01 03:18 PM
Then looks like they have to review at least 94% of the cases they rejected.
Mostly of the people just think its just giving the annonymous name,phone numbers and getting the benefit of the decision .Please read these point and understand carefully before jumping.
Please be aware, though, that USCIS is likely to examine plaintiffs� adjustment of status applications more closely than it otherwise might. It may ask the plaintiffs questions and ask for additional information about their adjustment applications or immigration status. See below regarding �discovery.�
http://www.murthy.com/current485/VisaBulletinFAQ6-29-07.pdf
Mostly of the people just think its just giving the annonymous name,phone numbers and getting the benefit of the decision .Please read these point and understand carefully before jumping.
Please be aware, though, that USCIS is likely to examine plaintiffs� adjustment of status applications more closely than it otherwise might. It may ask the plaintiffs questions and ask for additional information about their adjustment applications or immigration status. See below regarding �discovery.�
http://www.murthy.com/current485/VisaBulletinFAQ6-29-07.pdf
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Aah_GC
02-28 07:05 AM
I am in the same boat as well. But you answer your question - am almost sure you don't need FP to renew your EAD. Having said that - why would renew your card in June? (Considering that you might not have received your EAD till Aug-Sep'07 of last year).
gc_bulgaria
10-18 05:30 PM
From Oh Law
http://www.immigration-law.com/
10/18/2007: Community Relations Meeting Q&A Between USCIS and AILA of 09/25/2007 [EB Proceedings Focused]
* This material answers a lot of important questions which have not been made available. The USCIS has decided to release the Community Relations meeting record for the public. Please click here.
10/18/2007: Correction of July VB Fiasco I-485 Filings
* USCIS officially released the information that total I-485 applications which were related to July VB fiasco before August 16, 2007 were 320,000. During the period, the USCIS received 400,000 anxillary applications (EAD and AP), and substantial number of concurrent I-140 petitions. All of these figures added upto 800,000. For the USCIS verification of this information, please Q&A between the USCIS and AILA as part of the Community Relations meeting on September 25, 2007. This has been made available today.
http://www.immigration-law.com/
10/18/2007: Community Relations Meeting Q&A Between USCIS and AILA of 09/25/2007 [EB Proceedings Focused]
* This material answers a lot of important questions which have not been made available. The USCIS has decided to release the Community Relations meeting record for the public. Please click here.
10/18/2007: Correction of July VB Fiasco I-485 Filings
* USCIS officially released the information that total I-485 applications which were related to July VB fiasco before August 16, 2007 were 320,000. During the period, the USCIS received 400,000 anxillary applications (EAD and AP), and substantial number of concurrent I-140 petitions. All of these figures added upto 800,000. For the USCIS verification of this information, please Q&A between the USCIS and AILA as part of the Community Relations meeting on September 25, 2007. This has been made available today.
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MetteBB
05-26 07:58 AM
^^^^^^^^
things that go BUMP! in the night
things that go BUMP! in the night
gcdreamer05
02-03 01:53 PM
fairy angel, there is a very kind and helpful person called "angry white male" a.k.a "Matt krusse" a.k.a "curry lover", please PM/Phone/Fax/Email this person and he will help you....
He may even get you a job....... :p
He may even get you a job....... :p
black_logs
05-02 12:25 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-05-01-immigration-asians_x.htm
NEWS
Asians are becoming more vocal in the debate
Wendy Koch
875 words
2 May 2006
USA Today
FINAL
A.7
English
� 2006 USA Today. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All Rights Reserved.
In New York City's Chinatown, Asian immigrants held hands and formed a "human chain" at 12:16 p.m. Monday to highlight the day, Dec. 16, when the House of Representatives voted for a bill that would make illegal immigrants felons.
In Philadelphia, Korean activists held a forum on immigration. In Los Angeles, they encouraged employers to let workers take the day off to join a march down Wilshire Boulevard.
Latinos have been the face of recent immigration rallies, but Asians and Asian-Americans are increasingly joining the protests or taking their own approach. They are speaking out on issues such as reducing the wait times for visas for family members or green cards for skilled workers.
"This is a turning point for them. More Asians are joining into this larger civil rights movement," says Pueng Vongs, an editor at New America Media, a consortium of ethnic news media.
"Our community has been fairly slow to mobilize, but we are definitely working together now," says Daniel Huang, policy advocate for the Asian Pacific American Legal Center. He says Spanish radio stations helped Latinos organize quickly for rallies, but varying languages mean it's harder to reach Asians that way.
People of Asian ancestry were 13% of the 11.1 million undocumented population in a 2005 Census survey, says Jeffrey Passel, senior research associate at the Pew Hispanic Center. Four countries -- China, India, the Philippines and South Korea -- accounted for most of them.
Korean-Americans have been among the most vocal Asians in the immigration debate, Huang says.
"We have a particularly large undocumented population," says Eun Sook Lee, director of the National Korean-American Service and Education Consortium. She says 18% of the Korean population in the USA is undocumented.
Vongs says Korean-American businesspeople, who hire substantial numbers of Latinos, are concerned about penalties they could face as employers.
The Korean Apparel Manufacturers Association in Los Angeles sent a memo to its 1,000 members urging them to allow workers to take Monday off.
"We don't want this to be a racial issue," says Mike Lee, the group's president, noting that many of the employers are Korean- American but the workers are Latino. Lee, a former U.S. Army officer who owns an apparel factory, joined a march Monday, as did all his Latino workers. Only a handful of his Asian workers took the day off.
The Chinese community has been less active until recent weeks, Huang says, noting their large turnout at rallies April 10.
"Chinese are sort of a quiet, conservative community," says Cat Chao, host of the radio call-in show Rush Hour on Chinese-language station KAZN in Los Angeles. She says that when Latinos organized the initial protests, many of her callers admired their activism. Now, she says, many say the activists have gone too far and call Monday's boycott too "aggressive."
Aman Kapoor, a software programmer from India at Florida State University, didn't join the boycott. His venue: the Web. Four months ago, he posted a message about his years-long, ongoing wait for a green card, which documents an immigrant's permanent legal residence in the USA. He says 3,400 workers like him, who have H-1B visas to take "highly skilled" jobs employers couldn't otherwise fill, formed Immigration Voice. Most come from India or China.
"We don't know the system here," Kapoor says, explaining why the group hired the lobbying firm Quinn Gillespie & Associates. The firm is helping the group urge senators to expedite the green-card process and change rules so some applicants enduring a long wait could change jobs.
More than other immigrants, Asians tend to be well-educated, professionally employed and in the USA legally, Passel says. About 10% of the Asian and Pacific-Islander population in the USA is undocumented, compared with 19% of the Latino population, he says.
The difference in legal status helps explain why the Asian community is less concerned than Latinos about legalization, says Karin Wang, an attorney for the Asian Pacific American Legal Center.
In a March poll of 800 legal immigrants by New America Media, 39% of Asian-Americans favored deporting all illegal immigrants; 9% of Latinos supported the idea. Forty-seven percent of Asian-Americans favored erecting a wall along sections of the U.S.-Mexican border; 7% of Latinos did.
Vongs says Asian immigrants are more concerned about human trafficking, the smuggling of people into the country for forced labor, sexual exploitation or other illicit purposes. "The highest number of people trafficked are Asian," she says. "It's primarily for the sex trade."
Civil liberties is another issue, Huang says. He says the House bill would make some misdemeanors, including drunken driving, a reason to deport someone. That could leave some people in U.S. prisons indefinitely because some Asian countries -- Vietnam, Laos and China -- permit few deportees to return.
Reuniting families is another concern of Asian-Americans. Huang says children or spouses of U.S. citizens wait one to two years for a visa to the USA, but parents, siblings and other relatives wait five to 12 years.
NEWS
Asians are becoming more vocal in the debate
Wendy Koch
875 words
2 May 2006
USA Today
FINAL
A.7
English
� 2006 USA Today. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All Rights Reserved.
In New York City's Chinatown, Asian immigrants held hands and formed a "human chain" at 12:16 p.m. Monday to highlight the day, Dec. 16, when the House of Representatives voted for a bill that would make illegal immigrants felons.
In Philadelphia, Korean activists held a forum on immigration. In Los Angeles, they encouraged employers to let workers take the day off to join a march down Wilshire Boulevard.
Latinos have been the face of recent immigration rallies, but Asians and Asian-Americans are increasingly joining the protests or taking their own approach. They are speaking out on issues such as reducing the wait times for visas for family members or green cards for skilled workers.
"This is a turning point for them. More Asians are joining into this larger civil rights movement," says Pueng Vongs, an editor at New America Media, a consortium of ethnic news media.
"Our community has been fairly slow to mobilize, but we are definitely working together now," says Daniel Huang, policy advocate for the Asian Pacific American Legal Center. He says Spanish radio stations helped Latinos organize quickly for rallies, but varying languages mean it's harder to reach Asians that way.
People of Asian ancestry were 13% of the 11.1 million undocumented population in a 2005 Census survey, says Jeffrey Passel, senior research associate at the Pew Hispanic Center. Four countries -- China, India, the Philippines and South Korea -- accounted for most of them.
Korean-Americans have been among the most vocal Asians in the immigration debate, Huang says.
"We have a particularly large undocumented population," says Eun Sook Lee, director of the National Korean-American Service and Education Consortium. She says 18% of the Korean population in the USA is undocumented.
Vongs says Korean-American businesspeople, who hire substantial numbers of Latinos, are concerned about penalties they could face as employers.
The Korean Apparel Manufacturers Association in Los Angeles sent a memo to its 1,000 members urging them to allow workers to take Monday off.
"We don't want this to be a racial issue," says Mike Lee, the group's president, noting that many of the employers are Korean- American but the workers are Latino. Lee, a former U.S. Army officer who owns an apparel factory, joined a march Monday, as did all his Latino workers. Only a handful of his Asian workers took the day off.
The Chinese community has been less active until recent weeks, Huang says, noting their large turnout at rallies April 10.
"Chinese are sort of a quiet, conservative community," says Cat Chao, host of the radio call-in show Rush Hour on Chinese-language station KAZN in Los Angeles. She says that when Latinos organized the initial protests, many of her callers admired their activism. Now, she says, many say the activists have gone too far and call Monday's boycott too "aggressive."
Aman Kapoor, a software programmer from India at Florida State University, didn't join the boycott. His venue: the Web. Four months ago, he posted a message about his years-long, ongoing wait for a green card, which documents an immigrant's permanent legal residence in the USA. He says 3,400 workers like him, who have H-1B visas to take "highly skilled" jobs employers couldn't otherwise fill, formed Immigration Voice. Most come from India or China.
"We don't know the system here," Kapoor says, explaining why the group hired the lobbying firm Quinn Gillespie & Associates. The firm is helping the group urge senators to expedite the green-card process and change rules so some applicants enduring a long wait could change jobs.
More than other immigrants, Asians tend to be well-educated, professionally employed and in the USA legally, Passel says. About 10% of the Asian and Pacific-Islander population in the USA is undocumented, compared with 19% of the Latino population, he says.
The difference in legal status helps explain why the Asian community is less concerned than Latinos about legalization, says Karin Wang, an attorney for the Asian Pacific American Legal Center.
In a March poll of 800 legal immigrants by New America Media, 39% of Asian-Americans favored deporting all illegal immigrants; 9% of Latinos supported the idea. Forty-seven percent of Asian-Americans favored erecting a wall along sections of the U.S.-Mexican border; 7% of Latinos did.
Vongs says Asian immigrants are more concerned about human trafficking, the smuggling of people into the country for forced labor, sexual exploitation or other illicit purposes. "The highest number of people trafficked are Asian," she says. "It's primarily for the sex trade."
Civil liberties is another issue, Huang says. He says the House bill would make some misdemeanors, including drunken driving, a reason to deport someone. That could leave some people in U.S. prisons indefinitely because some Asian countries -- Vietnam, Laos and China -- permit few deportees to return.
Reuniting families is another concern of Asian-Americans. Huang says children or spouses of U.S. citizens wait one to two years for a visa to the USA, but parents, siblings and other relatives wait five to 12 years.
NELLAIKUMAR
02-16 03:20 PM
Hi Nayekal,
I am in the same situation as you. My wife's employment is expected to end in the Middle of March.
1. Is it necessary to have receipt number from I-539 in hand by the time the employment is ending or is it ok to mail the I-539 after the employment end date. I am asking this since my H1 is up for extension after April 1st. I am trying to understand whether there is any risk in applying for my wife's COS H1-H4 along with my H1 extension. In this case, there would be gap of 15 days between my wife's last working day and when I plan to send documents for my H1 extension and my wife's H1-H4 COS.
2. Also, if we change it to H4, is it the end of H1. Do we have the option of switching back to H1 at later date without having to go for a fresh H1.
Can you please share your experience.
Thanks....
I am in the same situation as you. My wife's employment is expected to end in the Middle of March.
1. Is it necessary to have receipt number from I-539 in hand by the time the employment is ending or is it ok to mail the I-539 after the employment end date. I am asking this since my H1 is up for extension after April 1st. I am trying to understand whether there is any risk in applying for my wife's COS H1-H4 along with my H1 extension. In this case, there would be gap of 15 days between my wife's last working day and when I plan to send documents for my H1 extension and my wife's H1-H4 COS.
2. Also, if we change it to H4, is it the end of H1. Do we have the option of switching back to H1 at later date without having to go for a fresh H1.
Can you please share your experience.
Thanks....
purplehazea
06-01 06:18 PM
Guys I had started this thread for people who have already filed for I485 and are waiting for a visa number. I am surprised at how this thread has been altered with a poll and the kind of posts people are making.
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